Former Univision anchor Jorge Ramos insists on attempting to have a say in the way political discourse is shaped within the Hispanic community. As his most recent interview with Rep. Delia Ramirez (D-IL) demonstrates, Ramos has descended into unadulterated propagandism.
Under normal circumstances, when someone claiming to be a journalist is interviewing another individual about some remarks he or she may have said, it is common practice to play the clip right before asking the interviewee something along the lines of “what did you mean by that?” But Ramos never does that.
Instead, Ramos asks Ramirez “what did you say in Mexico?” This allows the liberal Illinois congresswoman to reformulate her remarks as she pleases, free from any accountability. It is stunning to see what Ramos is willing to do without the appearance of editorial guardrails constraining him as was the case at Univision.
The cult of diversity for its own sake has remained alive, even to the present day. Ramos and Ramirez both decry what has happened to the concept of diversity since Trump returned to The White House.
A defiant Ramirez, unafraid of facing a tough question here, continues to advocate for “diversity” and open borders. Ramos, in solidarity as far as they are concerned, gives Ramirez all the room she needs to do so. In many ways, this YouTube interview serves as a reminder of what was and what is to come: wildly partisan commentary disguised as “news”. Same as always.
Click “expand” to view the full transcript of the aforementioned interview as published on YouTube on Así Veo Las Cosas con Jorge Ramos on August 14th, 2025:
JORGE RAMOS: This is how I see things. Let me tell you a story about Isabel Allende, the Chilean writer. Isabel, of course, is one of the most widely read Spanish-language writers, or perhaps the most widely read in the entire world. And she told me that in interviews, they constantly asked her if she was Chilean or if she was American, where she’s lived for decades, near San Francisco. And she constantly gave different answers, sometimes saying she was Chilean, sometimes saying she was American, and other times saying she was both. Until September 11, 2001, came. And then, Isabel tells me that she realized it was unfair to be asked if she was from Chile or if she was from the United States, and she realized she could be from anywhere, that is, she could be wherever she wanted to be. And from then on, she identified as a Chilean American or American-Chilean, and she could be from both countries, precisely, without any kind of conflict. But this hasn’t happened for everyone. Chicago Congresswoman Delia Ramírez has had to explain her origins. Delia, of course, was born in Chicago, Illinois, to Guatemalan parents, and she could perfectly be from the United States and from Guatemala. And in another time, this would have been cause for celebration, But at this time, in 2025, things change. Congresswoman Delia Ramírez now joins us on this program. Congresswoman, thank you for being here.
DELIA RAMIREZ: Thank you for having me, Jorge.
RAMOS: Congresswoman, what did you say in Mexico that caused such controversy?
RAMIREZ: I think it’s been very interesting to hear. After giving my speech in English, I said in Spanish that I was very proud to be a Guatemalan-American. In English, you say“Guatemalan-American”, you don’t say “American-Guatemalan”. And for them, the fact that I proudly said in Mexico, at a convention of many congressmen from different parts of the region, that I was proud to be Guatemalan and American, has been the biggest controversy for them and the reason for so many attacks right now.
RAMOS: But aren’t- aren’t we all from many places? There are people who are Irish-American, or Italian-American, or Mexican-American, like me. A few years ago, what you just said would have been celebrated. There would have been a celebration for saying that there is great diversity in the United States and that diversity is the greatest strength, the greatest strength of the United States. But, what has changed in these years?
RAMIREZ: A lot has changed, Jorge. Even in the last seven months, a lot has changed. Our diversity has been our greatest strength, what has made this country so successful. The largest and most successful cities in this country are diverse and have immigrant communities. It’s very sad that this is changing, but you can see it when you hear Tom Homan, who is in charge of these deportations under Secretary Nomi, and the president say, “We have the right to be able to capture, arrest, detain people based on the color of their skin, what they look like, where they are and where they work.” It tells you exactly where we are right now in the Latino community. To the people who can proudly be Guatemalan and American like me, to the people who are proudly Mexican and American or to the immigrant, that for them we are what they detest and who they want to detain and and stop. And it is very very alarming to see this, that being able to have pride in what makes this country so great and so good is at this moment something that they are using to try to harass, arrest, or strip me of my citizenship, as some of my colleagues have said. I was born in this country, and I have defended this country, and I also understand that what makes us proud is being able to celebrate the entire culture of this country.
RAMOS: What you say is interesting, because not only have there been criticisms for what you said, but now I heard you say, they want to take away your United States citizenship. Who wants to take it away from you?
RAMIREZ: The people- who wants to take it away? Congressmen who haven’t read the Constitution. You’re hearing from a congressman from Tennessee that immediately after hearing parts of what I said—he doesn’t speak Spanish, but I don’t know how he translated it, maybe on Google—that they should strip me of my citizenship, deport me, and remove me from Congress. That’s alarming and should alarm all the people who can so easily post attacks like that on the internet. I was born in this country, just like he was. I’m a citizen of this country, and he wants to strip me of my citizenship. I wasn’t naturalized, I was born here. But it’s very alarming because it’s the same person who’s saying he wants us to remove presidential term limits and that President Trump should be able to run again indefinitely as president of this country. Someone who doesn’t understand the Constitution and doesn’t respect it.
RAMOS: So you’d run the risk- or at least that’s what he’s proposing- of having your citizenship taken away. How- you, as well as I, are very careful about social media, but what are they saying on social media about your position? What have you read? What comments are out there?
RAMIREZ: Look, if I started telling you, the comments are terrible. Threats to me, threats to my family, threats to my husband, people who obviously don’t understand the immigration system, don’t understand how citizenship works, how residency in this country works, attacking my parents who are proudly American and Guatemalan, since they’ve been citizens for over 20 years. Threatening me physically, but also saying that the president and the speaker, the speaker of the House of Representatives should attack me and there should be consequences against me. It’s terrible. They call me in English and say treason, that I have committed treason…
RAMOS: Treason.
RAMIREZ: …that I have violated the Constitution. Yeah. How do you say it?
RAMOS: Treason
RAMIREZ: Treason. Treason is what I’m being told by the same people who didn’t care that people entered the Capitol, literally attacked congressmen, but those are the people who say I’m attacking the homeland. I’m proud of my American and Guatemalan homeland, and for them, that’s the biggest threat. I’m also Jorge, the person who first called for Secretary Noem’s resignation, right? Because of what she’s doing, the human rights abuses, putting people in cages, people who’ve been here for 35 years, chasing them around with masked people, putting them in jail, deporting citizen children. To them, I represent what they hate: diversity, a proudly Latin American woman who is defending the Constitution, the human rights of all people, and saying that what’s happening is alarming and that they’re attacking Latino communities directly because they believe we’re weak and that they can attack us, and that they will be able to do so. And I’m not going to let that continue, even if it intimidates me.
RAMOS: What you’re saying is very interesting, Congresswoman, because, your attitude shows that you’re not going to give in. What your attitude shows is that you’re going to keep fighting because you could, on principle, not do this interview and you could hide, you could be on the sidelines, you could ask for forgiveness and move on, but you’ve decided to fight. You’ve decided to fight. Where did you learn this?
RAMIREZ: Jorge, I learned it from my mother, I learned it from so many people, so many immigrants in this country who have forced themselves to get ahead by working two, three jobs so that their children can have the life they never had. I am the proud daughter of Guatemalan immigrant parents. I am the first Latina in the entire Midwest in Congress. I know what it’s like to see our parents trying to figure out how to get ahead so their children can get ahead, even though they may only have a third-grade or fifth-grade education, because they never had that opportunity. For me, right now, raising my voice for immigrants means raising my voice with the 11 million people in this country who are still living in fear because there hasn’t been immigration reform. It’s raising my voice for that girl, that young woman who watches those ads by Secretary Noem, right? With our own tax money that they’re using to fund them, and they’re afraid that they’ll snatch- deport their parents. My role is to defend them. My role is to defend this Constitution, and to remain silent or live in fear that’s exactly what they want.
RAMOS: You’re not going to let them.
RAMIREZ: I’m not going to let them, and I’m not going to let them because then they win.
RAMOS: Congresswoman….
RAMIREZ: They want to silence us.
RAMOS: Congresswoman, someone who also hasn’t remained silent is your husband, who is a DACA recipient. When he hears all this, is he afraid he might lose DACA? Is he afraid he might be deported?
RAMIREZ: Jorge, he’s now a resident. He was DACA for many, many years and last year he received his residency. Obviously it was a long process, we’re married, he’s married to an American and we went through that process. But it’s very important that people understand this, Jorge, that if they want to try to attack and threaten to deport a U.S. congresswoman born here, that even people like my husband who have residency are living in fear, that this government tries to use any little thing against them to try to attack him. And so, by attacking him, they attack me. This doesn’t sound like democracy to me. This doesn’t sound like respecting the amendments that give us the right to speak and to demand more from our government. It’s trying to keep people under fear. And I’m going to be honest, Jorge, of course my husband has gotten nervous about this, because you know what people do and what this administration has done to American citizens already.
RAMOS: I understand. Before you go, I wanted to ask you about another topic. President Donald Trump has militarized Washington. He did the same thing in Los Angeles and also on the border, but he also said that other cities could receive (unint) from the National Guard or military, including your city, Chicago. What happens if Donald Trump sends the military to Chicago?
RAMIREZ: First of all, Jorge, this is a point of terror, it’s a campaign of terror. He wants to try to silence anyone who dares to defend communities or dares to say that what this president is doing is illegal and unconstitutional. What he’s doing in Washington is very dangerous and is creating, as you said, a precedent for other cities like Chicago. Obviously, in Chicago- I am here in the state capital today, talking about what that means. We have- Washington (D.C.) is not a state, it doesn’t have the same rights or protections, but we know that this president doesn’t care about the rights or protections of a state and can do what he did in Los Angeles. So we’re preparing for that. But I think it’s vert important for people to listen. The military is brought to a city like Chicago in order to try to paralyze the movements and protests that are saying, “enough is enough against this abuse.” It’s alarming and people need to understand that this isn’t about trying to make the city safer, it’s about putting the military against some of the most successful cities in the country so that people don’t protest what’s happening and what they’re seeing in the streets.
RAMOS: Congresswoman, thank you for being here. Before you go, you’re running again in 2026, right?
RAMIREZ: I’m running for the (midterm) election in order to continue defending communities.
RAMOS: And to not remain silent. Congresswoman Delia Ramírez…
RAMIREZ: Never.
RAMOS: Thank you for being here. Thank you for being here.
RAMIREZ: Thank you, Jorge.
RAMOS: Thank you.
