Objection, your honor: leading the witness. Jeffrey Epstein victim Sharlene Rochard gave her debut interview to MS NOW’s Jen Psaki, which was aired Tuesday night’s The Briefing. While Psaki tried to get her to link President Trump to Epstein’s sex trafficking exploits, Rochard was made uncomfortable by the clearly politically motived effort and repeatedly sought comfort in the counsel of fellow victim Virginia Giuffre’s relatives who were on set with her.
The interview started off simple enough. Psaki asked innocuous questions about how Rochard got looped into Epstein’s world and where she traveled as a model. Then Psaki quickly brought up Trump’s famous resort and suggested Epstein had sent her there to be with Trump:
PSAKI: Did you travel to Mar-a-Lago?
ROCHARD: Yes, I did.
PSAKI: And how did you arrive at Mar-a-Lago? How did you end up going to Mar-a-Lago? Was he — did he send you there? Were you told to go there? How did that happen?
ROCHARD: There were a lot of model parties at the Mar-a-Lago. Different people would set them up, different magazines, and a limo would come, and you’d jump in the limo and you’d go.
Rochard didn’t claim she was sent there by Epstein. And as if Psaki didn’t hear her correctly, and seemingly ignoring the part about magazines renting out the resort for events, she tried to get Rochard to say so:
PSAKI: And Jeffrey Epstein or someone who worked for him would tell you to go there?
ROCHARD: No, it was just a place where something was held, a party was held, and people would go to different events.
Even after Rochard refused to explicitly link Epstein’s criminal operations to Trump, Psaki flat-out asked if Trump was aware of Epstein’s recruitment or trafficking practices at the resort:
PSAKI: This is about so much more than one person, Jeffrey Epstein, or Ghislaine Maxwell or Donald Trump. But because Donald Trump is a person who, of course, owns Mar-a-Lago, I just have to ask if you think he was aware of that arrangement.
ROCHARD: I don’t know if he was aware. Actually, I can’t answer that. I’m sorry.
When it became obvious Psaki she wasn’t going to get the smoking gun she wanted, she opened the floor to Rochard to share whatever she wanted. Rochard simply put the spotlight back on Epstein alone: “Terrible things had happened to me within my time with dealing with Jeffrey Epstein. I had encounters with people that I would rather not have.”
Tough luck, Psaki. This truth you’ve been looking for will surely show itself… someday!
The transcript is below. Click “expand” read:
MS NOW’s The Briefing with Jen Psaki
November 18, 2025
9:17:43 p.m. EST
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JEN PSAKI: In your experience of what you were asked to do, I know that Epstein himself, of course, was a predator. Were you — did you travel to the island?
SHARLENE ROCHARD: Yes, I did. I was in New York, Miami and on the island.
PSAKI: Did you travel to Mar-a-Lago?
ROCHARD: Yes, I did.
PSAKI: And how did you arrive at Mar-a-Lago? How did you end up going to Mar-a-Lago? Was he — did he send you there? Were you told to go there? How did that happen?
ROCHARD: There were a lot of model parties at the Mar-a-Lago. Different people would set them up, different magazines, and a limo would come, and you’d jump in the limo and you’d go.
PSAKI: And Jeffrey Epstein or someone who worked for him would tell you to go there?
ROCHARD: No, it was just a place where something was held, a party was held, and people would go to different events.
PSAKI: This is about so much more than one person, Jeffrey Epstein, or Ghislaine Maxwell or Donald Trump. But because Donald Trump is a person who, of course, owns Mar-a-Lago, I just have to ask if you think he was aware of that arrangement.
ROCHARD: I don’t know if he was aware. Actually, I can’t answer that. I’m sorry.
PSAKI: And you were in your teens. You were in your teens. And I think, this is important for people to understand, that people were in their teens and were young, and you were a young model and you were handled by a predator.
Let me ask you something else, because, again, it’s much bigger than a couple of people. Were you trafficked to other people?
ROCHARD: What do I — can I —
AMANDA ROBERTS: You can say yes, but you don’t have to name names.
ROCHARD: Right.
PSAKI: You only share —
ROCHARD: Sorry.
ROBERTS: Yeah — no, it’s okay.
PSAKI: — what you want to share. You don’t have to be sorry for anything. And I’m asking you this because I think it’s important to understand, as people do understand about Virginia’s story, that it’s not about just one person or two people. It’s much bigger than that. You can share whatever you want to share.
ROCHARD: Terrible things had happened to me within my time with dealing with Jeffrey Epstein. I had encounters with people that I would rather not have.
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